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proper 8 ball rack order

Postby Bazooka_Tooth on Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:04 am

so Im sure you have all played people who are very anal about the order that the balls go in an 8 ball rack, so my question is, does anyone have a picture or can explain well what the proper order of an 8 ball rack is, as far as solids and stripes order either from side to side or diaganol
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Postby Bazooka_Tooth on Sat Jan 28, 2006 1:19 am

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Is this right? just make sure the two corners are opposite as far as one being solid and one stripe and 8 ball in the middle, one in front...


and I always get some people who make a little *sigh* and walk up and fart around with the ball order after I racked them.... what re-re's
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Postby mechmat on Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:15 pm

Those people are idiots. Your rack is right. Some people like to alternate every other ball, which puts 2 solids or 2 stripes in the bottom corners, which is incorrect.

This is the description according to the BCA, "The balls are racked in a triangle at the foot of the table with the 8-ball in the center of the triangle, the first ball of the rack on the foot spot, a stripe ball in one corner of the rack and a solid ball in the other corner.."

All of the other balls should be randomly dispersed, but I make sure one group or the other is not clumped together. Oh, and I almost never put the one ball at the head of the rack. If they get pissy about that it's a sure sign they don't know what they're talking about, and there are probably a lot of other rules they don't know either.
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Postby franz on Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:44 pm

the local pool hall that i play in racks like this
( )
(!) (!)
( )(8)( )
(!)(!)( )(!)
( )(!)( )(!)( )
( )-solid
(!)-stripe
(8)-8 ball
i'm not sure if this is correct, is it?
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Postby mick on Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:35 pm

That is the usual rack but Jimmy Reid came up with another he says breaks with an even spread...more important than how it looks while racked...and I agree, try it. You can also mirror image this rack for the same results.

I use this rack most of the time...when someone says it isn't right because two like balls are touching, I say, then you rack it and show me a rack where two like balls aren't touching...(impossible)...so I always win the argument!

Here is a pix:
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Postby mechmat on Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:16 pm

franz wrote:the local pool hall that i play in racks like this
( )
(!) (!)
( )(8)( )
(!)(!)( )(!)
( )(!)( )(!)( )
( )-solid
(!)-stripe
(8)-8 ball
i'm not sure if this is correct, is it?


Technically that is an illegal rack since both bottom corners are solids instead of one of each.
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Postby franz on Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:22 am

ok thanks for the info
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Postby badandy on Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:15 pm

mick wrote:That is the usual rack but Jimmy Reid came up with another he says breaks with an even spread...more important than how it looks while racked...and I agree, try it. You can also mirror image this rack for the same results.

I use this rack most of the time...when someone says it isn't right because two like balls are touching, I say, then you rack it and show me a rack where two like balls aren't touching...(impossible)...so I always win the argument!

Here is a pix:
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exact same way i do except i typically would swap the 11 and 6. same results though, you always get two pairs of the same suit side by side.
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Postby TheConArtist on Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:58 am

i always rack with the color of the table, if the cloth is green then i do this. Then have the oneball twoball threeball etc... follow each other along with the nineball tenball etc... But i always place the color of the cloth as the head ball to make the ball harder to see for the opponent hehe.

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Postby badandy on Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:35 am

oops, i dont hit the head ball.
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Postby ToneMonkey on Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:50 am

Over here, the photo would be correct if you swapped the 13 and the 4 over.

Start off with making a semi circle in the bottom right of the triangle, all with the same type of ball (stripes in the photos case, if the 13 and 4 are swapped). In the photo this is the 10, 14 & 15 balls aswell as the 13 if the change is made. There will be a solid in the middle of the semi circle. Then you make a diagonal line of 3 balls next to this semi-circle using the other type of ball (solids in this case), the 4, 2 and 7 ball (if the mod above was made). Next to this goes another diagonal line of 2 balls using the other ball type (stripes again), then in the corner goes the alternate ball again (or a diagonal line of 1 ball, 6 in this case). Now the 8 ball can be dropped in, so you only have the three balls at the top of the triangle left. 2 solids and 1 stripe, put a solid at the front so you have one of each type left. Put the last 2 balls in so that you don't have a diagonal line of one type of ball (for example, if the 3 and 9 were changed over, there would be a diagonal line at the front of the 1, 3 and 7, this would be wrong).

Well it's a bit hard to explain but I'll try to draw a diagram.

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Postby qbilder on Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:49 pm

[img]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/Qbilder/balls.jpg[/img]
Not many know why the balls are colored & numbered the way they are. The pic above is why. Notice that the balls are in order by color & by numbers. Every other ball is next in line numerically, separated only by it's corresponding colored high number ball. Of coarse, it's not a legal BCA rack, but it is actually the proper rack, or at least in eyes of the man who invented the modern billiard balls. Just some food for thought :mrgreen:
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Postby mechmat on Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:10 pm

If you switched the 13 and 5 it would be legal. It would mess up the pattern but still look cool :P
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Postby qbilder on Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:00 am

Notice that there are total six of each on the outside of the rack, which is comparible to the BCA's intended idea. It's a perfect rack in stripe:solid proportion.
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Postby mechmat on Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:47 pm

Comparable but not compatible. It probably doesn't make much of a difference most of the time, but I could see where on a soft break the solids could be more likely to break out of the rack.
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